Can you look at boats for sale just as you do cars?

Boat Shopping

Is boat shopping the same as car shopping? When we need a new car, we typically go to the dealer and check out cars that are on their lots. Often, we will test drive a few to get a feel for the car. Most people are just “window shopping” when looking at cars, to figure out what they want to buy.  But can you do that with a boat?  We wondered the same thing.  While most boat brokers don’t have lots, they do have listings of boats. However, those boats can be located anywhere, including other states.
We figured, why not contact a few brokers about boats we would like to see and find out, if they would show it to us.  The first one we checked out was a very old boat located at Fisherman’s Terminal in Ballard. It was huge, about 68 feet and while it had some new renovations, it also needed some major TLC. That broker was happy to meet us and show us around.
boat shopping liveaboard
boat shopping for a liveaboard
It was listed for $99,000 and it had a huge laundry room, big salon, decent galley and lots of storage. Unfortunately, they had ripped out the ceiling in the master stateroom looking for a leak (did they find it?) and had let the front state rooms and head go….literally. It was a major fixer upper. But anyone that wanted to give it some time and money, would end up with a gorgeous vessel. I wish I would have taken photos of the inside, to show you what it was like.

Boat shopping a few weeks later…..

A few weeks later, we decided to hang out down at Lake Union and there were a few boats that were listed with local brokers there.  It was a Saturday, so “hey, maybe they will give us a tour?”. The first guy, wasn’t too interested and neither was the second one.  One broker, said “hey, the boat is open, help yourself”. So we checked out another fairly old boat.
This one was a 1981 Defever 49 foot for $165,000.  Still over our price range, but it gave us a good idea of what an older boat would look like.  Remember, we would be living on this boat, so we need  a boat that will allow both of us to work from home, so we need “office space”.  This one seemed perfect at first glance.

 

It had great seating on the back end that was either covered or uncovered.  Enough to sit back and enjoy the view.

liveaboard boat seattle

boat shopping older style liveaboard

We like that this salon had a very “homey” feel to it. And the galley was good size too.

spacious liveaboard kitchen

Up on the bridge it had another table area, that could definitely be used for an office and the view isn’t too bad either!!

liveaboard office bridge

captains cockpit

Even the heads were good size. The master had a half tub in it (but who would take a bath on a boat?).

liveaboard bathroom

So did we fall in love with it? Not at all! Why?  Well, the stairs (which I should have taken a photo of), were literally only 5″ wide and were spiral. Can you imagine going down the stairs at sea or after a few drinks? It was a death trap for sure.  But gorgeous vessel for it’s age.

Okay, that boat is out, what next?

We eventually wandered back towards the parking lot and I mentioned that there was one more I’d like to see. The broker, Mike Manning from Crows Nest just happened to be there and he was so nice! We asked if we could see a boat that was definitely not in our price range for kicks and giggles and he was happy to show us around.  This was a 2007 58′ Navigator Pilothouse for just a mere $575,000.

crows nest yachts for sale

But compared to the older boats, the interior is very modern and updated. It too, had a seating area up on the bridge that could be used as an office.

boat shopping liveaboard luxury

liveaboard living room boats

liveaboard new boats

boat shopping big kitchen

What we learned from our field trip down to lake union, is there are brokers that are happy to show you boats if they are available.  Mike from Crow’s Nest Yachts was so incredibly helpful, that when the time comes, we’ll be sure to reach out to him for assistance.
This weekend, we are going to the Lake Union Boats Alfloat show and I’m sure we’ll see a few more (out of our price range!). But it helps us to figure out features we are looking for (storage, etc).  Then next month we are heading back to Annapolis, MD and this time we are going to the US Power Boat Show.  We are super excited as we loved the US Sailing Boat Show a few years ago! Stay tuned! Scott & Ally

 

 

Live Aboard Marinas

Finding Live Aboard Marinas

Live aboard marinas is a hot topic for boaters and one that a “non-boater” would not think about perhaps.  Scott & I attended the Seattle Boat Show  earlier this year. We met with numerous marinas in the Puget Sound area, only to find out, they either do not allow liveaboards or there is over a one year wait list!
That’s the same scenario of needing to find daycare before you are pregnant. If our whole plan is to move out of our house and onto a boat, how in the world can you do that immediately when you buy your boat? Answer is you don’t, unless you get on a wait list.  And those aren’t free. After meeting with several marinas, we found out that the wait list fees run anywhere fro $25-$150. Again, you don’t even own a boat yet! Crazy.  So we figured this past spring of 2016, we would visit a couple marinas and find out what they had to offer.
live aboard marinas

Foss Harbor Marina

First was the Foss Harbor Marina in Tacoma.  We met the manager during the boat show and he was extremely friendly and helpful. In fact, one of his residents was there and couldn’t say enough great things about the marina.
live aboard marina amenities
The parking was very limited for guests and we happened to park right in front of the office and “general store”.  At the store/marina you can rent kayaks and SUPs. They gave us a key and a quick verbal tour for us to go check out.  The store was well stocked, including good WINE and it was priced just like a regular wine shop! (Bonus!)  Next to the store was the community center (no you can’t have a wedding here, but it’s perfect to watch t.v.) that had a large t.v., coffee maker, games and books, perfect for a small gathering (i.e. football game).

 

live aboard marina amenities

The restrooms were secured and each offered two showers and sinks, toilets and mirrors.  Nothing fancy, but would certainly work great.  The docks have a secured entrance, which is great. From there, we walked down to the docks and they are floating docks. So the main plankway can be either very steep or not so much depending on the tide. Most marinas these days offer floating docks, otherwise your dock could be 5′ below your boat! (LOL)

 

live aboard marina tacoma

live aboard marina tacoma

The marina was small and intimidate, which we like. It also has a great view of Mt. Rainier and it’s own fuel dock. The prices at the fuel dock were actually very reasonable.

live aboard marina tacoma

live aboard marina tacoma

If you worked in Downtown Tacoma, this would be a great commute!!

live aboard marina tacoma
The mooring prices were fairly standard for marinas and they had a 3 month wait list and their fee was $25 (I believe)….it was very nominal.  Definitely a marina we would consider.  The only cons we had, were limited guest parking and not walking distance to restaurants/bars.

Port of Everett Marina

A few weeks later we visited the Port of Everett Marina.  If you don’t know about this one, it is the largest public marina on the west coast in the U.S.
live aboard marina everett

 

Yes, this place was massive. In fact, we ate lunch at one side (the left) and had to drive to the office (the right). Definitely not walking distance.  They had plenty of space for 50′-65′ boats and the marina offers not only regular amenities such as showers and parking, but many restaurants and bars within walking distance. It did not have any type of convenience store. It is located at the northern end of Puget Sound, so as you can see by the photo it has great access to our northern islands and is also very well protected.

Here’s our view from lunch on the south side of the marina

live aboard marina everett
The downside, was not only the commute distance (yuck!), but the cost of the mooring. With everything said and done, the cost was about $17 per foot and the docks for the larger boats are quite a bit away from everything – except the large fishing boats that were being worked on. You wouldn’t want to be taking a nap – just sayin.  But we did like the proximity to restaurants the sound.  They had a 3-8 month wait list and I believe their fee was about $125.

 Since we have no idea what in the world we are doing yet, no wait lists or fees now. We have a few more to look at, but our options are very slim.  Odd for such a large boating industry in the Puget Sound.
Learn how we finally found our perfect marina slip. Scott & Ally